This level of negligence and irresponsibility would be considered criminal in a developed country. Check out David Paulidess accounts of people who go missing every day in state parks. I cover a lot of these things in my other comprehensive article regarding Kris Kremers Bones: There are simply too many variables involved to oversimplify the case with the conclusion that they got lost. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families. The girls took photos of so many things, even many mundane thingsbut for some reason the dog wasnt present in any of the photos. People began to suspect something happened whenthe dog Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. Where is the Ping for that time? Also I wish we new more details on the phones. He even found pictures of the suspect and a local model wearing Kriss blue shirt right after the disappearance. I did not cover all of the accidents and trials and tribulations along the way leading to their death. I suppose incompetence runs at many levels. I have seen some gruesome stuff where a captor will smash the feet of a captive to prevent escape. It was taken on the Continental Divide exactly 14 minutes and 12 seconds after their photos at the Mirador. Update Dec 2, 2021: The full-resolution version of this photo was released in 2021. The search efforts moved into the forests where the young women traversed, using on-foot search teams and dog units. The ground is littered with leaves, twigs, and stones. A man and a woman. by Chris | Jan 29, 2020 | Crime Abroad, Kris Kremers. The world may never know what happened to the pair, but speculation still runs wild. Do they deal in weapons, drugs, porn? From Chriss other article it seems the girls took a taxi to the hiking starting point? Heres what I think happened. And two months later, a pelvic bone and a foot - still inside a boot - were found in the same area, according to La Estrella de Panama. Two Dutch tourists Kris Lemers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22 disappeared while out on a hike in Panama in April 2004. Also right inside the cave looks like a fox or something similar is painted on the rock. Europe is the world . There are so many possibilities and we will probably never really know. Looking carefully at her forehead you can see theres only the shade from a pole but her face is shaded. This tribe was not located near the area where Kris and Lisanne disappeared, and therefore, in no way can be connected to the disappearance of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. You need to be a Photoshop wizard of substantial level to even attempt this and it would take absolute ages. Article about our trip plans: Research Team Update Support Us, Campaign Link: Mapping The Jungle Trails Of Panama. What do you think?? It happens often and I cant even imagine how horrible it was. Around 2 oclock. The day before theguided tour, however, they decided to explore the area surrounding the activeBarVolcano towards the Continental Divide. Fortunately, theres a lot of work still underway from private investigators and researchers. ITS SHAPED LIKE A BRA. They talk as if it would be difficult to branch off the trail, but maybe they did not notice other paths that could have been taken? The dog came back, but the young women didn't. https://photos.app.goo.gl/nVA1PDjjeVwULeo66. These other comments are just people seeing what they want to see, to make things more mysterious. Shes been beaten into submission. The backpack had no scratches, no marks, the camera and mobile phones inside are as good as new. I think whoever was behind the (likely) murders wanted it to seem like they went missing due to being lost on the pianista trail. If they had solved the case, the international community (and the families) would have been satisfied and let it fade into history. I dont know if this photo is before or after a photo where Kris appears to have mud on her legs and on her arm. I think it would be a mistake to assume Lisanne knew her friends password. What people are mistaking as swelling of the right eye/cheek is simply the sunlight highlighting the contours of the right side of her face while the left side is in shadow, probably combined with squinting of the right eye due to the bright light. Its so cold. I am thinking while I am writing so please be patient with me. Im baffled as to why this case hasnt been investigated more, if not for protecting an indigenous tribe. (The photos where the sky is suddenly cloudy). Many of the leads were simply not followed fingerprints, interviewing key suspects, identifying the precise location where evidence was discovered, etc. Im happy my work could shed some light on the possible items in the picture. What is that clear brown glass-looking circle in the upper righthand corner? Let me dampen the third party argument by asking IF their end was at the hands of another personwhy not simply bury the rucksack rather than all the elaborate need for photoshopping and phones used in the hands of a third party ? Being in a foreign country, in the tropical rainforests, especially for young curious minds, is a very unique experience. How long have Keir Starmer and Sue Gray been secretly cooking up their plot? I wish there were more answers to what happened. Maybe the girls did perish deep in the jungle, but that doesnt rule out somebody causing them to get lost. Once there, the families and detectives began a massive search. Stories which hes found in archives going back as early as 1500s until modern day all Facts and all true. They want to protect their tourism industry but they also dont have the resources to effectively stop gang violence. Its a sect of foreign Christians that set up in the area and murdered 6 people FROM one of the local tribes. Its sad because Panama is a beautiful country with a lot of wonderful people. I look forward to learning more and you do valuable humane work helping other young adventurers. Perhaps every murder in the first world is resolved. Thats perplexing to me. It needs to be stressed that while the AI upsampled image looks impressive, it cannot and does not recover any lost information. Make sure you contact someone with this info. But arent there the subsequent photos of Kris Kremers crossing the stream and so the developments may have occurred after this picture 505? Its at the very top of the post. https://postimg.cc/94q0cVhH. It only makes the image look more detailed, but the detail is artificial and can be very misleading. Yes indeed!I hadnt noticed that before!is it a carved rock of sorts?. Seriously? The predator is methodical. This is significant because image 508 was the last photograph of them where they werent in any trouble. View our online Press Pack. But in numerous case there are adverse priorities that lead to incompetence in disappearance investigations. Jalisco prosecutors said that three people still seem to be missing after a gang kidnapped a group of tourists at the Pacific resort of Puerto Vallarta earlier this month. Lisanne believes her dead. These were of seemingly random objects, like a stick with plastic sticking to it, as well as scenes of foliage, canyons, anda bridge. As soon as I zoomed in, my heart sank for her. He has a weapon like o jr t in his hands. You have a good eye! In the end, maybe this photo has more information that was originally thought. Its texture and color seemingly resembles the red bag tied to the SOS stick on the rock later on, imo. After taking a deep dive into all the evidence and flying out to Panama to do their own investigation, the pair concluded that the girls deaths were an accident. The back of the shirt was soiled (you interpret). "Those flash floods made staging scenes or strategically placing items impossible.". Ive considered a number of possibilities on the pictures. Auto Reset and Continuous. This is relevant because if the camera was on Auto Reset and 509 was deleted before 510 was taken, then the camera would use image 509 again. Seems weird. Occums razor. David Lee Thomas Bass - Facts About the Musician. Im not sure if people can really talk with animals but i sure would try and see by calling on a few and get their opinion. In the leaked images some 90% of the original information is irretrievably lost trying to read anything into any of the remaining spots and splotches is fools errand. And more to the right of the insignia, is that water, an underground river maybe, there is like a light at the end. Their causes of death have never been determined. We have no way of knowing if somebody tried to unlock the phone but failed. I noticed this too. Heres more info: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/research-team-update-join-us/. I think murder is quite likely. They provide a live accounting of missing-persons cases. WHY? Something I hadnt noticed before until I could see the photos upclose, (the one where she is hunched over) is that her face looks distorted; it doesnt look like her almost as if its some kind of mask. Rocko Akira Clapp. The simplest is for them to disappear. Everything suggests they had no clue what they were doing when they took the taxi to the start of the trail. Thanks for your interest in the case and providing some input. There are over 30 fingerprints on the blue backpack which belongs to one of the girls, but they dont want to investigate the fingerprints. Jeroen Jumulet / Stringer / AFP / Getty Images, Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. Not to mention her hair was down in the photos at the beginning of the hike and now they appear to be in at least two pony tails where devil horns would be. Hi Lisa, I wrote an in-depth analysis of Kriss bones here: The government officials involved failed at providing a thorough analysis/evaluation. A witness who wont be staying in Panama for long. From my own gutt feeling I see only a very preventable accident. The picture just before this one appears to be higher in elevation, meaning that from the direction they were coming, a pit trap being place around this area could/would be ideal. However being one of the last photos taken this location would be incredibly important to have investigated back in 2014 (or even still). Two young women, who dont take any risks, go for a trip in the jungle and get lost in a mysterious way? There is no traces of them anywhere. The theories go from accident to a crime to a combination of both. However, when theres monetary interests involved, especially within key industries I give those ulterior motives some weight and consideration. You cant see any blue sky behind the branches and the rock is in bright sunlight which bleaches out the colour. Instead, they think What words can I say to make my local population feel better? After all, locals elect these same authorities. Im just pointing out some peculiar things worth noting. . For what reason? What confuses this is that after Kriss phone dies then on the 5th during the afternoon SOS attempt a wrong pin is input on Lisannes phone and indeed continues to be input until the end. https://u.cubeupload.com/beavermatic/KrisKremersFullPhoto.jpg, Her hands are not tied behind her back! People have been there. I do not think this case fits the criteria of missing 411. I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. Jalisco authorities have launched an investigation in connection with the enforced disappearance of four tourists. I dont think so. Because of thedark, the pairmight have usedthe camera flash as a light sourceor to scare away animals. I wonder? Even the bones, the few that remain. The girls' camera showed evidence of what may have happened. They got lost and succumbed to the wild. The FBI and others have continuously tried to stonewall him from publicly making these cases and their bizarre circumstances publicly known. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kris+and+lisanne++finanli. The hanging object and other points of interest you highlighted reminded me of this. 24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events. Indeed it does not even accidentally appear. Being disoriented, and losing a companion, hunger, asthma. Very interesting.. To begin with his suggests either they walked into dense dark forest so there was no foto ops or it stopped being fun and started to become serious so somewhere not far beyond that stream did they met a fateful fork in the path which took them towards oblivion. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. Lisanne or Kriss hair and head 4. the dried short (Kriss) 5. both fell but their belongings were intact, no cracks in the phone? You can bet your life if someone was with them at that point, then they were the culprits who had something to do with the girls disappearance. In the days following the students' disappearances, authorities conducted footand aerial searches. I wish I had them as actual photographs that I could shuffle around until I can place them in the order in which I think they were taken. I agree. Estou certa que no foi Lisanne que a tirou. Nobody knows what happened to Kris and Lisanne and everything is open to speculation until more information is found. If a picture is deleted from a camera, its still possible to retrieve it. Therefore, if Kris Kremers is normal and happy, as she appears to be in this photo (and in the other photos in the series), it means that things took a bad turn for them relatively soon after the photo above was taken. Nonsense. Also, Im looking forward to reading the new book as well, particularly what Pitti has to say. JW, I agree with you totally, thanks for your intelligent remarks! Out of all the photos that have been released this photo disturbs me the most. The photo to me appears that she simply is bending over to get the sun out of her eyes, with her right hand help up to shield the sun. So they hide a lot of the gang activity and downplay what happens, which exacerbates the problem. At least the trash element and roof structure looks like very strong evidence. She is clearly shielding her eyes from the sun by holding her right arm up. Im sorry but the question deserves a dumb answer. I agree that her hands look like they are over head. Was someone who's still out there responsible for their deaths? No accident. Not lurking or following the girls or walking beside them; nothing. From January to October, 86 Navajo men and women have gone missing nationwide, said Meskee Yanabah Yatsayte, a missing-persons advocate for . March 3, 2023, 7:57 AM. Also, where did learn that her brother mistakenly put the hair photo online? They know that youre supposed to find a river, so they set out in search. In the Americas, more than 6,200 people have been reported dead or missing during migration since 2014. Take care. The tragic deaths of Kris and Lisanne remain a disturbing mystery. PANAMA CITY BEACH Local officials agree that traffic is the No. And the police know who it is, but will not say anything. (who knows why). Yup, I toot checked and her video came only after this post. At 2:50 they start walking up to what I believe is the location in this photograph, Not a cave but an old bridge you can see the railing and bridge post and there is a weird shadow to the left behind the railing. All of it couldve just gone away.? Although it might be the sun that gives her face a strange expression. Jump forward to Boquette now and you will see a photo of the girls in the street, and behind them is a shirtless fat white man. & is that some sort of an entrance to a cave or another makeshift structure shes crouching to take a look inside- or is a part of the trail in that spot purposefully made lower & narrower in order to pass through? In truth, the fact that theres no evidence that the dog was with them leads a person to believe that perhaps someone could have fabricated the fact that the dog was with them. And theyre gaining steam in recent years. I would think they had to be pretty far into the jungle to have come across that slat roof structure. For all that we know, it could be someone who works for the police who did this. Whatever happened and if it did not include a third party must have been serious and traumatic because we live in selfie times and as can be seen from their earlier fotos they were in the selfie zone. Cheers. So, their work was good but not perfect. However, regarding Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, Id need to know more about their personality to make this determination. The black and red object above is clearly a decayed plant leaf. Think about it. Progress is slow because at least one of them has a cut tendon. Is there somebody behind the insignia? The theory of being lost is so plausible in a Jungle but then the photos .. the speculation can never end. 3. Hi Justin, great work with sharpening this image. This whole incident is the stuff of horror movies and very chilling, even if it was an accident. I feel that unless they do or unless further forensic work has shown something more then, no matter what the experts in survival say, it is still only speculation and not proof. I read that the dog returned to town in the evening, alone, but I havent seen it in any pictures. Lisanne sets up a SOS with toilet paper and a mirror, hoping to get the attention of the helicopters. Their bodies were located after more than 690 hours of searching. Personally, I believe that number one mentioned above is the most likely reason. Political corruption runs rampant, depending on the community, which has a cascading effect on law enforcement and local crime. That looks kinda like a monster, Very interesting and thorough analysis. The 29-year-old from Stockport vanished on 14 August near a beauty spot in Panama. I am Photoshop expert, and I promise you that its virtually impossible to edit images in any way without it being noticeable at the pixel level. Yes, the photo data was manipulated. Shes just exploring. This is so surreal. Be careful. For goodness sake, why do people make things up? The girls were no longer alive after April 2nd latest. The women wanted to see as much of Boquete as possible,hiring a guide to showthem around on April 2, 2014. Thanks for all you are doing Chris. Then I downloaded the photo and opened it up in my graphics editor. Ive been to Brasil and the Amazon and spent nights there in the rain with a crowd though. If you find any additional information, please let me know. There is discussion in reference to a possible cave, but is there any evidence that the girls found a cave besides perhaps Kriss hair appearing unusually dry in the night photos? Especially the one where Kris is holding a water bottle 30-40ft from the photo-taker. Shes ducking down slightly and trying to shield her eyes from the sun with her right arm. The red is the sunlight shining through the dead curled leaves. If their experience was catastrophic that that happened shortly before 16:36 UNLESS both were incapacitated and sense only returned at 16:36. Dutch investigators attempted to recover the file but didnt manage to retrieve any data, which suggests that the camera was plugged into a computer and the file was deleted rather than deleted from the camera. Someone watched them swimming. Looking forward to reading what Bethzaida Pitti comes out with in the book she is co-authoring about the case. There just seems to be something wrong about this photo, and I dont like her expression. That is not a cave or a ravine behind her. In fact the last 4 (pre-nightime) photos are at odds with the others. Were trying to raise $5,000 for gear, security, transportation and food. Two months after the backpack was found, a pelvic bone and foot still inside a boot were discovered in the same area, according to La Estrella de Panama. If you read the article linked, its not even an indigenous tribe. See the State Department's travel website for the Worldwide Caution and Travel Advisories. There is what appears to be a well trodden, narrow path to the left of her which passes behind her and enters a very dark area at the back right, which could be the cave. I find it odd that the young American girl was murdered not long after this not far away as with the taxi driver who was found depended likely murdered. Her whole body is facing towards the right in the picture, almost in profile to the camera, with even her right leg in front of her left leg (a dancer would tell you that her whole body would much more naturally turn to the left, away from the camera) and then only her face turning right, towards the camera, the upper part of her body following slightly. However, if Kremers and Froon had found manmade ramshackle structures during their hike, such as the possible items viewed in this photo, its possible they had unwanted company. She has no idea that her parents are about to arrive in Panama. I do believe that this appears to be some sort of structure though, it does seem like some vines / branches have been woven together to form some sort of hut and even the AI enhancement would not make the blue appear on the floor so distinctly, the color and look almost reminds me of a scrap of denim like material? If you think America is a safe country youre extremely ignorant or niieve. Kriss in the photo is just watching her step. One indication is that I cannot see the shoulder strap of her top that is obscured by her white/fair forearm. Perhaps this stranger had suggested he could guide them on a more interesting trail, or show them something interesting in the jungle. It isnt a cave, somebody has shown in a youtube video that it us just a very deep path on the wrong side of the mountain with a sharp turn. I hope one day they will find more answers. You will notice another branch of dead leaf just below it. To the creator of this photo analysis Thank You, excellent work. Do you have any idea how many people of all ages go missing here every single day. Ive written about many disappearances in Central America: https://imperfectplan.com/disappearances/, Thank you for your comment and please feel free to send me any notes/info that you find. If it is not possible to join those two points together then that would at least shine light on the possibility that a third party was involved at some point leading to the appauling possibility that they genuinely were lost for some time (until the 5th?) https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, Actually heres uncompressed upscaled original image (upscaled and color corrected with AI). Who did the manipulation of course is a mystery but it points to being a corroboration of the police narrative that they got lost. There is an illustration drawn on Kriss back in the hair photo. Wonder if this case has any similarities? To me it looks like the chopped off end of a thick tree branch. That said, tourists wear shorts and sandals because they are not used to the heat or aware of such social norms. Hi Chris, great work by you on this. To me, this photo says it all. Even the cheap pair of sunglasses are in perfect condition. And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). If the dog went with them, its likely that the girls would have taken a photo of the dog, even if the dog was in a photo accidentally. There were no signs at that time. Yes, this was taken after their photos at the Mirador. I am very familiar with the Koude Kas posts. Is there a particular name, symbol or color associated with the gang? The last photo of Kris on the rocks doesnt appear to have any evidentiary value to me. These photos dont have a lot of helpful information and the camera was tampered with. 90% take place right here in the US in state parks. A piece of evidence that is irrefutable. So that is what she discovered here. the only strange element in this photo is the distance. Their backpack contents and electronics were stolen to be sold later but handed back to stop the search and not be incriminated. Wow, theres a lot going on in this picture. These were standard vacation photos that two young women would take while traveling. Why were they still in the jungle at 4:39 PM when they made their first distress call? The smooth rocks would further back that theory up and the blue trash could have just washed up thereperhaps. I think the girls were made or persuaded against their wishes and by persons unknown, to go beyond the end of the Pianista trail to goodness knows where! Foul play is very likely. This case has captivated me. The families of both Froonand Kremers also became concerned when they didn't get a usual check-in call. I noticed that youve submitted two more links in another newer comment. EERIE photos discovered on a camera belonging to two missing hikers revealed their mysterious final moments before both girls vanished in the jungle in Panama. From the summit, they decided to go in a bit deeper, or just took the wrong exit path by mistake. Who would do this, and why? I believe that by the time this photo was taken, the situation has gone sideways. This option is least likely, because wed obviously see something more tangible in the photos. The fact that one of the 112 called connected for 2 seconds and they did not redial it immediately, is also well dodgy. https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and.html.
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