The chance to remake oneself is a universally acknowledged strength of this Republic, and the Republic itself has done it often enough. Switch to the light mode that's kinder on your eyes at day time. If even one of them were true, it would change the entire focus of my article. Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. America. The Ms. , we thought, would signal a bit of ironic distance from the broad, ingenu- ous affection contained in Miss America., It evidently didnt. Fonda told the audience that their protests saddened her. Whether Fonda wanted to shame troops is subjective. The cover called her Ms. So did Joan Baez and William Sloane Coffin, Noam Chomsky and Pete Seeger, Rennie Davis and Judy Collins. She has to be a murderess too. Peter Braunsteins article speculated that Jane Fonda had this ability to a degree unique in modern times. Nixon has responsibility for everything he did or didn't do on his watch. Then Dr. Spock attacked the Vietnam draft. They hadnt been able to vote on the virtues of the conflict, and they found themselves in mortal peril in the midst of an ugly, painful ordeal that a lot of vocal people back home thought was a criminal enterprise. Mr. Nolan wrote something that helped me better understand the fury of this sort of reaction. Maybe. If I was used, I allowed it to happen. GRUMMETT: Don't worry about it, you know? We have no right to bomb military targets in Vietnam. But now, very quickly, treason is the only crime defined in our Constitution. Those words were written by Michael Benge, a civilian advisor captured by the Viet Cong in 1968 and held as a POW for 5 years. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The story surfaced on the Internet in 1999, and my guess is that it will live there a long time. Kelly responded with a cannon by bringing up the time Fonda posed on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. For a great many people, its not enough that Jane Fonda went to North Vietnam, offered encouragement to an army that was daily killing her countrymen, climbed up on that anti-aircraft gun, insisted that all American prisoners were well treated, and so on. Jane didnt make her infamous and idiotic trip to Hanoi until 1972. 1991) Pages 225-229. Whether youre a lifelong resident of D.C. or you just moved here, weve got you covered. How did we get into this war? I feel sorry for NORTH: She didn't apologize, Alan. If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. The journey of Jane Fonda: Ive always been curious. In 1972, actress Jane Fonda traveled to North Vietnam on an anti-war mission. In July of 1972, she made two trips to Hanoi which earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane. However, the fact that she advocated Communism does not give anyone license to make up stories or slander. Email us. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. One of the definitions of treason is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Liberals in America's streets "protested" our victories and exulted in our defeats - thus, in patriots' eyes, giving the war a raison d'etre. WebDaughter of legendary Henry Fonda, actress, and activist was one of the most outspoken people against the Vietnam War at the age of 34. She is the daughter of legendary actor and WWII Naval Officer Henry Fonda. Some lawmakers calledher actions treason. By July 1972, when Fonda accepted an invitation to visit North Vietnam, America had been at war overseas and with itself for years. What followed was a long-lasting wave of criticism and international outrage that earned Fonda the nickname " It wasnt firing at the time, and Fonda said in 2011 she hardly even thought about where I was sitting and that it is possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese Market data provided by Factset. Yeah, said my stepdaughter, Jill, when I told her about this. tips@mediaite.com. The buck stops here. She did not merely criticize the authoritarian government of South Vietnam, or the dubious motives of powerful corporations that make up the American military-industrial complex. Fonda was accused of engaging in war crimes on behalf of the North Vietnamese. Now, aid and comfort can be measured a lot of ways. At that time, over 60,000 American soldiers had lost their lives, and almost one million Vietnamese. Truman refused. Jane Fonda sparked outrage among war veterans when she was pictured sitting on an anti-aircraft gun in 1972 during the Vietnam War, earning her the nickname Hanoi Jane. Screw you. NORTH (voice-over): Thirty-five hundred Marines came ashore. No article of ours gets hundreds of letters, but this one did, very few of them friendly. During an interview with Barbara Walters 35 years ago, Oscar-winning actress Jane Fonda apologized for being used as propaganda for North Vietnam when we were still fighting North Vietnam. "Hanoi Run" from USSR to Viet Nam, was produced in Russian plants that had been built by American companies and financed by the Federal Reserve System. Support with a donation>>. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. The war was being fought by the air during during the Nixon administration. You know, we can we can scare her, and boy did they try? She called our POWs hypocrites and liars and referred to their torture as understandable. It was to these traditional Americans, alienated by the Sixties, that the email was targeted, playing on their hopes that finally, at long last, Jane Fonda would have to answer for her choices. She now works at Reuters. If it wasn't I must be missing something. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Kelly was defending herself after Fonda said over the weekend that the question was so inappropriate and that Kelly is not that good an interviewer.. Thus, Europe, Russia, China, Korea, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Thailand, Japan, the Middle East were turned into killing grounds, and their existing governments destroyed. But literally working hand-in-hand with the enemy to promote their cause to a worldwide audience was not protected by the First Amendment then just as it is not protected now. Sending Out Veterans' Benefits, The Executive Branchs Response to the Flood of 1927, The Case For Calling the Language "American", America Fought Its Own Battle Over Books Before it Fought the Nazis. It never happened. No article of ours gets hundreds of letters, but this one did, very few of them friendly. Subsequently communist China was awarded a permanent seat on the U.N. Security Council, its most powerful chair. Youre gonna come through it, okay. Many Americans traveled to And by the way, did our government lie to us during Vietnam? Fonda traveled to Hanoi, Vietnam, to protest the Vietnam War, but she did not do most of the things the post claims. They have never acknowledged their role in the killing fields of Cambodia and fail to discuss the fact that Vietnam, one of about four communist countries left on the face of this earth, is currently at the bottom rung of third world nations in terms of per capita income. War materiel, shipped via the Fox News has enhanced the careers of numerous women who have served as hosts. Peter Braunsteins article speculated that Jane Fonda had this ability to a degree unique in modern times. Its something very like the worst sort of lovers betrayal, the deep wound that time itself often is powerless to heal. I mean, that's what you and I do with our wives when we say something that we shouldn't have said. However, since the majority of the stories cited in the e-mail have no proof behind them, I had to either give the e-mail "thumbs down" or "thumbs up" on the basis of the overall validity. officers, toward the Chinese border amid cries of protest from Wall Street which feared war with "our trading partner" Red China. Coffee houses. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. They hadnt been able to vote on the virtues of the conflict, and they found themselves in mortal peril in the midst of an ugly, painful ordeal that a lot of vocal people back home thought was a criminal enterprise. CHRIS WALLACE: When you got that nickname Hanoi Jane, how did you feel at the time? NORTH: As a matter of fact, no. Fonda consorted with the enemy and made propaganda broadcasts on their behalf. But because of the nature of Vietnam, McNamara said to me, if wed known what we know now it would have we should not have gone out. MacArthur soon realized he was expected to win battles but lose the war. It never happened. There's no statute of limitations on it. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. The other stories allege a far more direct participation in war crimes on the part of Fonda. Number two: You've got the POW meeting, where she sits down and holds a press conference for propaganda purposes with these prisoners of war. Though Fonda has been an activist throughout her life, the only other time she has spent the night in jail was in 1970, when she was 32, on a speaking tour protesting the Vietnam War. She has reportedly been shopping a tell-all book this year. Christopher Andersen, Citizen Jane (New York: Henry Holt and Company. During her two-week stay, Fonda concluded that America was unjustly bombing farmland and areas far flung from military targets. "Claim: POWs were beaten for refusing to cooperate or meet with Fonda during her visit. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How are you, G.I. WebJane Fonda & TheVietnam War. Respected online resources such as Snopes, Truth Miners, and Urban Legends have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. Jane Fonda was more than just an actress born to a wealthy and prominent Hollywood family. She was a symbol of a divided nation. You know, I have an organization in Georgia that deals with adolescents, and Ive studied parenting. Donald [1] According to a recent email that circulated to various Vietnam veterans, Fonda reportedly beat one POW, and betrayed the confidence of another, resulting in his death. Thousands more were on the way, including Ernie Wallace (ph) and Ed Grummett. Ive never really wanted to settle.. I spent many years its when I made coming home talking to American soldiers, who had been in Vietnam and the things they told me were heartbreaking. She visited Russia in the early Sixties, and was personally impressed by the deference she received. On campus, she was pushing her movement to turn U.S. soldiers into pacifists. I think you'll find that those are things on a more personal level than stupdities and worse committed by LBJ, Congress, and Nixon. However, the allegation that she abused American POWs is not true. quote: Outside of herself, she was manipulated by the experts in the Communist government who are masters in the art of propaganda. Otherwise, she wouldn't touch a weapon if she was genuinely anti-war. The reason Jane Fonda went to Vietnam was not wrong as Mr. Sollinger put it but the way she behaved while in Vietnam was unappropriate. It was the last day of my two week time there. The story surfaced on the Internet in 1999, and my guess is that it will live there a long time. I agree with TheWrap's Terms of Service and Privacy Policy and provide my consent to receive marketing communications from them. In no sense am I a Fonda apologist. It is always distressing to find American citizens who benefit from the protection and assistance of this government lending their voice in any way to governments such as the Democratic Republic of Vietnam distressing indeed, said State Department spokesman Charles W. Bray, according to a July 1972 Reuters story. Laurie Dhue was a familiar presence on Fox in the early 2000s but left the network in 2008. Kellysaid she was among those at Fox News sexually harassed by Ailes. quote: Fonda was a political activist in the counterculture era during the Vietnam War. But Jane Fonda: Cancel my subscription! If you must know, my original draft did make reference to the one true story that you mentioned. Heres her explanation, from 2011: I had decided to do the broadcasts because I was so horrified by the bombing of civilian targets and I wanted to speak to U.S. pilots as I had done on so many occasions during my visits to U.S. military bases and at G.I. I have had my say. Politicians make mistakes that affect the body politic and statesmen sometimes direct a foreign policy that disregards individuals in the national interest. It is possible that the Vietnamese had it all planned. I will never know. Pleasant Michigan, where Mary Hersberger (Capital University) and Jerry Kembcke (Holy Cross College) both gave papers on Fonda. I said that the POWs claiming torture were liars, hypocrites, and pawns. Read on. By denying their mistreatment or not investigating their treatment,in an effort to sway public opinion to her own perceived vision of the national interest, she did harm to her countrymen in captivity. I find that intolerable.. I mean, he realized that. NORTH: These are the things that this woman did, and she has not apologized. And, as she does, each POW palms her a scrap of paper with his Social Security number written on it. Jane Fonda tested the limits of patriotic dissent. Heres what she said in 2011: In my anger at the torture story that was being allowed to spread, at how the entire situation was being manipulated, I made a mistake I deeply regret. And heres Cat Ballou, the beautiful daughter of Young Abe Lincoln, of Mister Roberts, beaming down from a machine designed to kill them. The "advisors" assisted inept South Vietnamese in their ongoing war against the North Vietnamese, who also happened to be communists. I mean, the fact is, there's no statute on treason, by the way. But when you know why you did something, and youre willing to admit the mistakes that you made, but stand up for the things that you did that that mattered? Us veterans will never forget or forgive her posing on a North Viet anti-aircraft gun, regardless whatever else she may or may not have done. In Hanoi, Fonda also met with seven American POWs and later said they asked her to tell their friends and family to support presidential candidate George McGovern; they feared theyd never be freed during a Richard Nixon administration. So I feel that well If I did was good, except that I shouldnt have set gone out to a military place. Its something very like the worst sort of lovers betrayal, the deep wound that time itself often is powerless to heal. JANE FONDA: Well, I didnt like it. Have a tip or story idea? and how good she feels in her 70s. re: Jane Fonda visiting BR this weekend Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:43 am to Chipand2Putts. And definitely not fonda Fonda. Chiang refused to be extorted, citing his revulsion of the international banking cartel. According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. But the reality of it is, Alan, this is a woman,who I quite frankly feel sorry for. Due to actions and images some people consider unpatriotic or treasonous, she earned Sadly, the Founders also mixed a great deal of Greco-Roman Humanism with this heritage, allowing room for much of what you decry. She called our president, according to this report, "a new type of Hitler," pilots "war criminals.". I stand by the article as it was written. FONDA: I'm charging the government with genocide, with genocide. It hurts me, she said, and it will to my grave that I made a huge, huge mistake that made a lot of people think I was against the soldiers., The Dragon Lady: How Madame Nhu helped escalate the Vietnam War. Status: TRUE" It all has nothing to do with where I am sitting. Maybe John Nolte of Breitbart had the best of intentions, but his essay We Should Accept Jane Fondas Apology About Vietnam is an ethics mess. Content and Programming Copyright 2005 Fox News Network, L.L.C. Others were hoping to catch a glimpse of a famous Hollywood actress. The reality of it is an apology is saying, "I am sorry, I really do apologize for what I did over there, and I'm asking for your forgiveness." The Roger Ailes and Bill OReilly scandals have cast even some old departures in a new light. And its about a woman who had a capacity for reinvention that, like Jay Gatsbys, was the more effective for her whole-souled belief in what she devised. Greta Van Susteren -- who had been one of Ailes' most stalwart defenders -- left in early September 2016 after saying that Fox had "not felt like a home" for years. In fact, when the Tet Offensive broke, Jane Fonda was the featured pinup girl in that months issue of Leatherneck , the official publication of the Marines. Please try again later. In July 1972, during the waning days of U.S. military involvement in Vietnam, actress Jane Fonda incurred the enmity of untold thousands of Vietnam veterans and their families (as well as service members for generations to come) when she arrived in Hanoi, North Vietnam, and began a two-week tour of the country. Outspoken host Elisabeth Hasselbeck left "The View" to join "Fox & Friends" in 2013, which she exited at the end of 2015. After all, she is an American; surely shell carry the message home to the families that their husband or son is alive. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. Dr. Rockefeller certainly did not defend Communism as a "Jewish" system, since it is the Hebrew Bible that was the basis of our Common Law, and hence much of our Constitutional Order. And, you know, I think they thought, Oh, shes this white privilege rich, famous daughter of all of that stuff. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. "VIET NAM: A repeat scenario was played 10 years later under another banker-picked Democratic administration. CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. I don't want people putting words into my mouth, saying "you're going to tell us all these bankers and financiers are Jewish", for instance. Even she had to apologize years later for that gun picture, but not for the rest of it. HANNITY: Is Jane Fonda really sorry or just trying to sell her brand new book? If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. This, probably more than anything, earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane.. WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Jane Fonda: Prime Time - Walk Out (DVD, 2010) at the best online prices at eBay! MacArthur asked Truman to permit Chiang Kai-Shek's troops to fight with Americans against the Red Chinese. SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Jane Fonda says she is sorry for some of her actions during the Vietnam War. "There's no disputing that Jane Fonda toured North Vietnam, propagandized on behalf of the communists, and participated in an orchestrated "press conference" with American POWs in 1972. Troop B, 2nd squadron, 17th Cavalry, RVN, 1969-70 The Army builds a tolerance for violence, she shouted at the crowd. Oh, my God. Have a tip we should know? She claimed she was sexually harassed by correspondent Brian Wilson and later spoke out against Fox News' culture after the Ailes scandal broke. I remember one retired lieutenant colonel describing a conversation he had with an angry trooper about the treasonous behavior of Jane Fonda in the midst of the 1968 Tet Offensive. It was the last day of my two week time there. Jane Fonda came clean in an interview with Chris Wallace about her Hanoi Jane days and her failure as a mother. Legal Statement. It was my mistake, and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it. CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. or redistributed. However, when my credibility is challenged, I will respond. Free subscription>>, Please consider a donation to help us keep this American treasure alive. I mean, he realized that . https://twitter.com/MegynTODAY/status/955454505067470848. Ms. Fonda's actions, however, directly affected helpless individual captives and their families. NORTH: And mine too, brother, even after 37 years. She said: I have very few regrets. I believe Jane Fonda has talked to at least two historians. There was a real Colonel Carrigan, and he was a POW in Vietnam. Ms. Fonda only met with those POW's who had sold out their fellow POW's, who willingly (without torture) made propaganda statements for their captors, and who enjoyed privileges of medical care, food, and even night-time excursions into Hanoi to watch movies in return. The charges against Fonda went beyond the notion that she was an apologist for the mistreatment of American prisoners of war. Market data provided by Factset. COLMES: She didn't say the words she wanted her to say. "CHINA: Following WWII, Mao Tse-Tung, financed by the international banks, led his Chinese communists in an armed conflict against nationalist China under Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek, America's ally against Japan. One showed her applauding North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gunners. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. Among the products sold expressing veterans' disdain for Fonda are a variety of bumper stickers, envelope stickers, sew-on patches, but evidently D&G no longer carries my favorite Fonda item, a urinal pad depicting Jane Fonda's photograph. I want you to go home and say, "I'm sorry I got caught doing the wrong thing.". I dont think they know, Fonda said in a news conference when she returned home. The POWs are beaten. Fonda has refused to tell her side of the story to historians investigating her role, purportedly because she was saving her story for her own memoirs, which are expected to be published soon. Truman warned Chiang to integrate communists into China's nationalist government or American aid would be withdrawn. Youre gonna come through it, okay. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. Shewas arrested before she got the chance, just as she had been at Fort Lewis, Wash., Fort Hood, Tex., and Fort Bragg, N.C. Fonda told The Post shed made talking to GIs herfull-time job. Jane, now 84, is Someone (I dont remember who) leads me toward the gun, and I sit down, still laughing, still applauding. However, you may note that the Left still presumes to lecture the rest of us often concerning foreign policy on a regular basis. All rights reserved. I mean again, I'm not trying to be pedantic about it, but an apology is, "I'm sorry for what I said. WebIn July of 1972 Jane Fonda went to Hanoi, North Vietnam, for a two-week tour of the country. They knew we were coming. Her rebellion against the foreign policies of the United States suggested to many outraged Americans that treason might have an All-American face, a familiar accent, and be closer to home than the Other that had previously been assumed to embody the enemy. And I don't NORTH: Well, that's not going to happen. And it was a terrible mistake because of the image that it showed, which was not at all what the reality was. Read more >>, The magazine was forced to suspend print publication in 2013, but a group of volunteers saved the archives and relaunched it in digital form in 2017. The Washington Post spent that day with Fonda, following her and a dozen or so students to Fort Meade in Maryland, where they planned to hand out antiwar leaflets to soldiers. Hows this for a story? As I tell my students when we discuss the proper use of testimony, we probably ought not to listen to Jane Fonda on things dealing with foreign affairs but if our goal is to rid our aging bodies from the ravages of cellulite then Fonda can be considered an authority! We have no right to attack that country. This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," April 6, 2005, that has been edited for clarity. MacArthur publicly insisted upon victory, infuriating the international banks. Copyright 1949-2022 American Heritage Publishing Co. All Rights Reserved. Which goes to reinforce the old adage that no one is truly a waste of skin. This is and now she's apologizing on a book tour. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, No license is granted to the user of this material except for the user's personal or internal use and, in such case, only one copy may be printed, nor shall user use any material for commercial purposes or in any fashion that may infringe upon Fox News Network, L.L.C. Just before that experience, she said the words that continued to play through her head were: All men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. T. Jefferson. Thats all the ground troops were going home. but not for the rest of it. False. He didnt live to see it published. Denying a final victory over a dedicated and skilled marxist enemy was a recipe for the murder of our men. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. NORTH: Well, all I did was present the facts. After Fonda returned from hertrip, the State Department spoke out against her. Here it is. officer gets an idea. Im not you know, they all went to jail. During the visit she posed for several pictures. Yeah, said my stepdaughter, Jill, when I told her about this. Why are people more angry at Jane Fonda that they are against, say, Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon, the people really responsible? You're a great American. In 1972, Fonda toured North Vietnam, where she spoke against U.S. military policy in the country.
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