hello everyone, I just bought a set of callaway x22 irons, 5-pw on ebay from a shop called What would you say is a reasonable price? Or did the basic to good to be true rule apply to most cases? ns1.ename.cn They claim to sell only OEM clubs but the prices are so low I wonder if theyre not counterfeit. Does anybody know hotsale.com? They are Frauds B,i ordered that excact club and it never even shipped.After further research ive discovered they are fakes.Save your money n spend the extra 70bucks. Just wondering how you found your clubs from golfshop365.com. return shipping can be hugely expensive (iron return quoted by DHL as $240 US). taylormade tp. Alexa Trend/Rank: Down Arrow 1 Month: 1,153,907 3 Month: 861,020 I just want to make sure that these clubs are real and not fake. (I love my Nickents!). The PI-401 cavity back iron was designed for players of every skill level. As suspected it was not in the system. Has anyone dealed with http://www.golfwholesalemarket.com? I think I just stumbled on another sham site. According to Entrepreneur, the Hot 500 rankings are compiled with the help of Corporate Research Board, a research organization. superquad overall length 46.2 inches shaft weight after pulling 106 grams hosel .350.. proper spec would have been 44.75 inches -65 grams shaft -.335 hozel Thank you. Tech Phone: +86.05946277277 If you find a bunch of clubs with Project X shafts at regular steel shaft prices beware. I've got two Miura wedges from there, they came in basically new condition for significant discount (looked like they had hit 3-5 balls indoors). so i advise that if you decide to buy from an online store, do a little bit of research, sites like this will help alot of people, only had i visited here first!! I pursued getting my money back through paypal and was able to stop shipment and get a refund prior to shipment. You acknowledge, by your use of the Golfskydiscount,Inc. Its wrong for us to participate. Creation Date:2009-03-13 Anyway, I found that golfdealonline.com, discountgolf18.com, and golfsuperstoreonline.com all have the same contact number of (919)228-9899. can you please explain this to me I checked with the reviews and too many people talked about bad things some of them already pay and have never get a golf set. http://www.gtbshoping.com and http://www.gtbshopping.com I just purchased a taylormade r11 driver and taylormade burner 2.0 irons. Regards. Registrant Search: wl sale owns about 2 other domains No phone #. A set of Project X shafts alone are $4-500. are these authentic clubs if not and i recieve them can I get a full refund? Province: Fujian I bought new Callway FT irons and found them 1st class, this firm gives one 7 days sale or return which is more than enought time to check out the purchase. US Why are left-handed options so limited? I also would start looking at the golf balls to see if the stores are valid. Since its founding by three high school friends in 2000, RockBottomGolf.com has grown to more than $21.4 million in revenue by 2006. Anyone have any feedback with these sites? have you guys brought any brand of golf set from the wowgolfcllubs website? Like someone above commented, our sweet spot is getting closeouts, overstocks, and liquidation goods that we can sell at significant discounts. Thanks for any info. While I agree countefeits obvioulsly are to be avoided. Just looking for the best deals without getting ripped off. To be eligible, the founder must be actively involved in the company, the company cannot be a spinoff or a division of a larger company, and company sales for 2006 must be at least $1 million. FWIW, they promptly removed the clubs from site and sent me a thank you. Go to your local golf store instead. Great set. Daisy 00:21:27 they even own a shop called Chris cotes golf shop. Visit http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/nike-golf-2012-machspeed-x-irons.html# to have a look for your self. And, Im getting it with these clubs. Starting to get the picture? Your best option is to get your money back from PayPal. Dear sir, im new to online buying and hope my first major purchase doesnt leave a bad taste in my mouth. Please inform me if I am missing something, but if Rockbottomgolf does not hold accounts for the authorised purchase of golf clubs from such top brands previously mentioned, is there any other legitimate way of acquiring clubs and for a price that can be competitve on a world scale? i have a question not pertaining to a web sight but maybe someone can help. Please dont worry about the quality, because our clubs are made with the same technology and mould. It was a brand new club and, after receiving it, I could not tell if it was a fake or not. Instead look at the about us citation. When contacted they ignored the complaint refused to acknowledge or accept the problem despite sending photos and generally just stone walling or not answering emails that may implicate them in accepting responsibility. They are offering Mizuno MP 59 irons for $408.00. I get sale flyers from reputable dealers like TGW & Edwin Watts, etc. Has anyone had any trouble or ordered clubs from these sites in the past? Thats a scam Craig no doubt about it. Whether buying brand new. The prices were in the too good to be true range, but I can tell you that I had them all checked out and am 99.999% sure they are the real deal, as was the pro that looked at them. Thats actually an OK deal. Country: China Biggest customer is in United State of Ameraca; he 6ft 6in and 220lbs. IGOLFYOO, GOLFSMARTDEAL, GOLFMARTDISCOUNT offer very poorly made taylormade fakes (sold a legit). However, I did want to share a good news story and let you know that your feedback and contributions helped me avoid purchasing a PING G10 set (D,Ws,3-PW,S, Putter). BEWARE OF WWW>PERFECTOUTDOORGAME.COM, Great site!! Steer well clear of this new site, it reeks of counterfeits. They came in on Saturday (while I was out of town). I wish I read this before I went for the mirage that is cheap online Titleist Drivers! By the end of this article you will have a better understanding of how to identify counterfeit golf clubs. The problem is most of us dont have the money to buy the best so we buy the crap in hopes it performs like the real deal. Are they legit? Only the manufacturer is not Mizuno but a Chinese sweatshop. Colors are different. If there is Velcro or other closing mechanism, it will be of poor quality and many times will not work correctly. Also, you said they are shipping from China. These are the clubs I am looking at. And the partnership transcends the traditional sponsorship model. This is also not a full proof way of determining whether or not a set of clubs is fake or not, as most of those sites will accept any serial number that is enter. the things I just described to you are what i wish I had known beofre I bought it. I dont think English is their first language. It has no physical address, you cant pop round and see them. Tech Name: Brandgolfclubs I spent time in the shop and analyzed which options were best for me The time alone with the pro was worth more than any cost savings or risk online. Pinemeadowgolf.com is one company that does this and I have read their website extensively. On Scotty Cameron putters it is located on the shaft up near the grip usually between the bottom of the grip and the top of the shaft band. They have more fitting choices and more knowledgeable staff to fit you from my experience. Shame on them! Admin FAX Ext. Hello guys! I though it was an American site. There are no laws against buying products on the open market, at least in the USA. If they have several negatives or if they dont have a lot of transactions or feedback, be leery. The donation will be made to fakedonationsinchina.com. maby it would help if everybody that bought clubs from reputable sources would register them with the maker, there would be a lot less legit numbers out there floating around. It is safe to assume that they are legit for other manufacturers. For some reason I got a thanks for communicating message and was cut off 184 for a set of X22 is extremely cheap. So now Im wondering if they are fakes. Registrant Email: Administrative Contact: In which category do you come into? If they are counterfeit they usually will not like answering these. Im not sure what all that means but I have sent them an email with a demanded response within 24 hours. I repeat; YOU CANNOT BUY GOLF CLUBS STRAIGHT FROM THE FACTORY., IF THE GOLF CLUBS ARE FROM CHINA, THEY ARE FAKE!!!. Tech Phone: +86.85283408916 Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $17,518,000 and employs a staff of approximately 43. I could be another gullible stooge. Thanks Dan, I will wait to see how they are then contacy Callaway and try the same approach with Topmallgolf as i will want to get some monies back if they are not real genuine clubs. However, the club was obviously too heavy. Tech Phone Ext. Registrant Contact Information : Scammers. Most OEM manufacturers only place a serial number on a single club like the 6 or 8 iron. I recently purchased a Taylor Made 2008 Burner rescue club on ebay from golfetail. If they were professionally built then the seller should be able to provide a receipt showing who built them and cost. beijingshixichengqu NO55, 100000 Tartan Sports has a Chinese manufacturing facility listed from the very little info I could gather on them, they also have a CA facility here in the US but I am not sure if that is a distribution center, or if they manufacture there. NS History: 3 changes on 3 unique name servers over 4 years. Ground research has found address given is fictitious. It seems way to cheap to be real. Unless otherwise noted, all Contents are copyrights, trademarks, trade dress and/or other intellectual property owned, controlled or licensed by Golfskydiscount,Inc. Ahh, you think that price is cheap on the internet? The PI-401 . Must be a very big price mark-up on clubs if you can buy a counterfeit for 300 % cheaper. Yes, by the same brand I do mean this seems to be the regular list on these sites: I just won an auction for $120 from GolfBestBuy-usa. He got the package from UPS what I saw. I know it hurts to go to the big guys and pay the extra cash, but better safe than sorry. I have bought a number of clubs from various ebay sites and havent been ripped off yet. The counterfeits I have seen all have them on all clubs and all sets are the same number. I just bought what is my "dream" set of MC-501 in Black Boron and now I am totally worried. DONT DO IT! our clubs are with the same material,same quality with the clubs made in Muzuno factory Anyone ever hear of this outfit? So, technically, they are not lying. Let us solve the matter easily, would you please take the refund $200 and keep the clubs? Too many blatant red flags. sunogolf.com well done you got me. I mailed it back May 20th and have yet to see my card credited as of 7-19-10. Regardless, Im finding that my iron shots are not doing any slices/fades or draws/hooks. Buying from US retailer is probably best bet. Even if the price is nearly the same.BEWARE.buy from a pro that can fit you on a flightscope monitor or TRACKMAN and buy direct from the factory. I have bought several clubs from them and they seem legit. I agree with some posters on here that you should just buy your clubs at a local retailer to be sure, but why should I spend an extra 300 bucks on something when I dont have to? I got delivered only the irons and woods which were extremely poor quality. Any help would be appreciated. After 7 days the club had not been shipped yet. No mention of Golf Wholesaleseller.com SO IT IS A CHINA COMPANY AND I AM STUPID. There is something to be said for cheap labor in fulfilling our American thirst for products, but it also opens the doors for problems like we are discussing here. Stuff breaking apart and all that..fake. complaint Rating: 0 % with 0 votes I have found 6 other auctions that I am sure is the same seller even though the seller identification is different, TaylorMade clubs are the only ones that I have looked for, but I would bet there are others as well. Their registrar email address is a free gmail account. Grip Size: Standard. In the meantime, I have found 8 other auctions on Ebay for just Talormade clubs which I am sure are from the same seller even though the email address is different for most of them. I have just ordered some wilson Di11 half graphite half steel shaft clubs for 260 from mgf11 on ebay does anyone know anyting about this seller? But the looks were spot on. Is this counterfeit clubs? I purchased Callaway Edge irons from onlinegolfwholesaler.com. It arrived within three days, is in great condition for the amount I paid for it ($50) and plays exactly the same as the one I tried at my club. I will link pictures here, seems you cant upload a Foto. Try golf-seller on eBay, one of his auctions may not get too competitive and you may save a lot while being able to customize (just know what you need and it helps). Does anyone have any previous history with http://www.golfclubs-store.com/ ? can you confirm this so we can let everyone know what theyre up to? I thought they would have said the clubs are all fake and that they had made up the serials numbers. Hi Interesting reading and I now fear Ive been scammed. any suggestions or feedback on the seller would be helpful. another expensive lesson. how about http://www.golfdiscounting.com/? Cheap, cheap, cheap. I told them that my wife found out I ordered these and she is pissed. Golf Spy, I just ran across this website yesterday and was wondering if you were familiar with them and if they are Legit as far as Authenyic Clubs? San, Alaska 99504 As you can see, the graphics are a good bit different on the top shaft which is the counterfeit. http://www.sunogolf.com. The Miura TC-201 is a "Tour Cavity" model sitting somewhere between a true muscle-back and full-fledged cavity-back iron. Thirdly, they had no contact phone number. :). I guess it's more than bleeding obvious they're fakes. I am trying to start selling the clubs people back out of because they dont have the money to buy after they are completed. The amount submitted to my CC company was within $10 of my purchase from golfwholesaleshop.com. If you have already paid for clubs how do you get a refund My distance dropped noticably and the feel of the ball strike sucks with all kinds of weird vibrations in the grip. Their sale must be almost counterfeits goods. I have a fake club sitting right here next to the computer desk that i bought a month ago. you cant tell me a tp driver costs 500 bucks to make but a standard tm driver will still net a profit on sale next year for 150. hi everyone, btw sorry for my bad english (im a french canadian from quebec) ive just purchase a nike sq dymo driver on the web and the driver has not aiming mark on the crown (the two little triangle ) do you think its a fake ??? They seem to ship all their clubs via Shenzhen because thats where they are when I track there whereabouts. I hate to see you all type about so many different business names by the internet as you believe that price is cheaper or unsure if that company make the golf club from other country. A legitimate seller of OEM clubs? gu shan qu So I repeat my accusation. Great information! Go get fitted from a golf professional that knows what they are doing. Most counterfeit clubs will have a much larger font for the serial numbers than what is on the authentic clubs. [emailprotected] That iron seem same way as mine, not make any different. When I looked into it a bit more, I realised I was right to panic! + $29.50 shipping. Stop asking about reputeable sites! Here are my 3is in said pecking order: (Trust me in that the GENUINE stamp is there on all three, just like what I saw on your Retro TB pic. So clearly, they deal with Callaway. Miura Black Wedges 53* and 60*, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex Any thoughts? I bought a set of used Unique Gold irons locally and learned to hit with them. The appearance and quality is as the same as the authentic one, except no authority and the quality assurance of the brandcompany. Country : us I mostly posted the finished post after reading others saying that there aren't any Chinese Miura knockoffs because it wouldn't be worth it to have dies made for that little money, so they're real. The world is full of counterfeit clubs and it is only now that most people are realising the magnitude of the disception as person after person gets stung. If they go cranking on it and it breaks then they look like they did shoddy work. Ali Baa has numerous Miura wedges and iron sets at cheapo prices, really cheap. You say Rockbottomgolf receives many of its good from major retailers. (I took pictures to demonstrate all of this). Prices are really low and was debating purchasing the Ping G20 irons but worried whether there fakes or not, Warning for http://www.hotgolfuk.com! Our records show it was established in 2000 and incorporated in New York. Look out TPC Louisiana!! These irons have a unique design with some reductions of perimeter weighting and more weighting allocated behind the sweet spot. Running as we speak. Remember golf club manufacturers spends millions of dollars developing and researching their products to make what in the end is a precision instrument. The Miura CB 1008 irons check all the boxes for a player's iron - thin top line, minimal offset, modest sole width - but they also have something that makes them unique. Which buys closeout clubs and resells them at 2ndswing.com. And then compare pictures from both because that's. Website set up in Oct 2011 and prices appear to be too good to be true. Cheeper than manufacturers sell to retail outlets. Thomas Rath I got them for $168.50 with free shipping from our oversea office.It was a quick decision as I was really just browsing with no intentions of buying until I spotted this auction in the last minute with a low bid. Were paying for sdvertising and PGA pros with all that club money!! Were there some of the fake sales that were at a higher price, in order not to suspect that the clubs are fake. Swingweights are up to 10 off, bad weights, shafts, grips, etc. Or am I just being paranoid now and should trust what the store sells?? xielunyong When I lived in the UK there was a great website called golfbidder which also has a couple of small stores so you could go in and see the clubs. NS History: 3 changes on 3 unique name servers over 2 years. plz help!!!!! cn, Administrative Contact: One thing I noticed with all of the questionable websites listed is that they all have pretty much the same lineup of brands that they sell. Fake clubs will look like it is lasered on, but the writing will be much larger and a lot of times will only be on one club. Nothing wrong with that. Overall Im now fully expecting a fake club to arrive at which point Ill have to go through pay pal and try and get it returned/refunded. on ebay is the big ds house of golf real or fake? I recently bought a set of Ping G25 irons from golfdealonline.com and I think they may be fake. Finding: the set is genuine ( this is my 5th callaway set and I know the products well ) and would say, Empire Golf is professional and sells genuine products. No reason to suspect that the club I bought is a counterfeit, especially considering the great distance Im getting off the tee since using it. sally. I can tell you from personal experience that Golfetail/Rockbottomgolf/Globalgolf are 100 reputable and sell only genuine articles. I've never seen fake left handed Miura irons. Because its wrong for the OEMs to do this. Do you need any more proof of the golf scams that abound on the internet? bottom line, they are not all honest seller but some of them are honest and give great service and sell original stuff. Finish will most likely be different. i think its fake because of the price for one, also because of an imperfection on the hozel of the club. Registrant FAX Ext. Most of the time the font lettering will be thinner on the counterfeit. I just posted up the best fake back photo I could find. The first clue was the sound it made. Since then I have been doing some research, I dont have the club so nothing concrete but I fear a counterfeit is on the way. I simply did a google search for Ping G15 Irons and on the sidebar had numerous hits for brand new iron sets priced at $369.99, and $389.99. Recently purchased what was suspose to be taylormade R11 driver for 260.00 a good price and about 30-50 less than ebay from supplycheapgolf.com website, total counterfeit had it checked out by Edwin Watts Golf store, and the only way I found out was when I went to make loft adjustment set screw would not tighten clubhead back onto shaft, and I noticied this the first day I received the club originating from China, immediately contacted website via email, phone number does not work and have been getting runaround ever since, avoid this website as it is nothing more than a fraudulent website making money selling counterfeit clubs, hope no one else gets burned like I did. Notice how the counterfeit sits extremely closed when sitting on the ground. Thanks. Whois History: 5 records have been archived since 2009-03-14. : I would hope that they are quite rare and therefore not worth forging? I bought a D2 Titleist online. I am looking for second hand Titleist AP2 irons 2008 model. Peter, I have the same question. 4) Within the source code of the page there are Chinese comments..checkout line 347: The things that scare me are: - $110 shipping for 3 heads, seems really excessive. after seeing this site im concerned about the authenticity. Is there anyone else getting the same RSS issues? I have not recived my clubs yet,but after reciving tracking number i can tell they vere shipped from new jersey. A friend just bought some Calaway clubs ( not sure which model) from this site at a VERY good price which makes me think its a scam. Your site has been very informative You mention so many legit sites to purchase from and of course so many to stay away from. This is what I got from their customer care!!! im planning on checking for a serial number and calling callaway to see if the number matches the set. Im just looking for a good deal so could u give me a list of good uk based sites or if I bought from the states like hurrican golf would I have to pay import duty on them. For example under the heading of Retail Operations you will see that the sentences are not very well constructed and the choice of some words is very Chinese speak. I am left handed and looking to get a set of irons. I receive the clubs in a few days. https://www.ebay.com/itm/155100568154?nma=true&si=FKPXmduLxHWeUm2mAA1sp4qnT9w%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557. Its probably the number one spot for counterfeits. golfclubsequipments.com, Hey guys and mygolfspy, awesome forum, glad to see youve saved so many people from buying fakes..Just wondering if anyone has any information on MONSTER GOLF and EMPIRE GOLF USA, they are on ebay and have great feedback golfdiscounting golfdiscounting They appear to be counterfeit. By I 00:14:19 Call 800-588-9836. Thats why we could sell them at such favorable price. Not 1 club-length, 1 CLUB. The internet is awash with counterfeit golf clubs but fools still line up to make purchases which keeps these thieves in employmnent. I mean, really, 1500 sets available cheap. Callaway RazrX iron set for $369!! cpeck Advanced Members 641 Feedback 2 0 0 Total Rating 100% Posted May 19, 2019 Font size on the AP2 is much larger on the counterfeit. December 2017 - Started my golf journey with a set of used Taylormade M1 irons 4-PW February 2018 - Fitted for my first set- Callaway Rogue 4-PW December 2018 - End of my first full season. Thankfully, the counterfeit golf club issue has slowed some in the last couple of years thanks to people being more aware of the problem. This is where the majority of the shadiness begins. Their products can be found at http://www.rockbottomgolf.com and http://www.rockbottomgolfballs.com. What do you think? is this stores sell authentic clubs? There are some very reputable manufacturers of clones. golfdiscounting golfdiscounting Hey, so hurricane golf is a reputable dealer. Fax : 86-010-2994895-111 Daisy 00:10:55 All very genuine, especially the can openers. purchased some TM burner irons. Has anyone seen this place before? Happy Golfing. My co-worker bought from buyinggolfonline.com. I bought a full set of R9 including woods, bags, trolley, umbrella etc worth $1,300. It's fun to scoff at and make fun of but people are getting ripped off. On further examination, I found the bolt on the 3 wood was a little longer than the bolt on the 5 wood and apparently was bottoming out. I visited a dealer at a flea market where he displayed a sign claiming to be an ADAMS distributre, but offered to sell a set of A12OS irons at a wholesale price. Odyssey Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade), BGT Stability tour black with Scotty Cameron pistolini grip. them back but would very expensive. On your survey on ebay and fake clubs. (brand new wedges)used only the 55 in a 9 hole round last night felt great almost a i didnt swing hard enough sound coming from the iron but with great distance. Hi. Details are just not important to them. Is a good place to shop. Do yourself a big favour, stop trawling the internet for that amazing golf deal on a new driver or a new set of irons.