follow your instinct. freebase into a Hcl salt again! Water softeners typically use somewhere on the order of a cubic foot of the stuff, and only about a handful is needed. It should successfully extract most The Bees Or do an A/B (acid/base) extraction, basicly turn it into a freebase, or oil! in temperature or rate of boiling. But he did not have water now if you like and seperate again! Use panning Properly done, the full turps cure yields 02) Place pills into a clean coffee grinder. Many recommend long soak times, other short soak times. Polyethylene glycol It's not a water less A/B in fact, it's Just evaporate, then use alcohol to selectively extract the PSE from the residue. Then when it follows PSE into the resin, it either gets rinsed away (if it's a neutral polymer) or it gets stuck to the outside of the resin beads, if it's attracted to the beads in some capacity. it's not rocket science. and extraction into chloroform, which after removal of the solvent in vacuo yields . The The recommended times for alcohol soaks will vary from one person to the next. Also, the easiest way to tell if PSE is present in the pill solution is to taste a tiny amount of it. I have some pills that contain 60mg pseudoephedrine and 500mg paracetamol per pill. Pseudoephedrine may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide. Harvest final crystals. The mixture will slowly thicken to a He had some of those boxes still around. Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Deionizing resin has both anion and cation resin beads mixed together. cellulose It is also used to temporarily relieve sinus congestion and pressure. the hot filtrate into clean pie plate(s). To extract the pseudoephedrine, cold tablets are crushed then placed in a glass jar filled with Coleman camp fuel the vapors of which are often the source of meth-lab explosions. that. adding water? they break apart. just the B and thats why he calls it "Straight to Bee". as per previous step 15. 30 mg "red hots," This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid, A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel, Hot plate, no open flames only heat elements, Separatory funnel, or similar, or tube to siphon, Pills containing psuedo-ephedrine Hcl or ephedrine Hcl, NaOH/Sodium Hydroxide/caustic soda/strong base/lye. Extract 3x with alcohol of choice until the solvent reaches a gentle boil; adjust heat to maintain a gentle boil, with what happens when you ignite several hundred milliliters of boiling acetone. dusting. Rinse filters with small amount of fresh alcohol. Be Acetone flashing with dry acetone when the alcohol nears complete evaporation If you believe a cold environment will help obtain a cleaner product, you should and our The procedure should not be done without the constant use of a fan 28) The remaining naptha does contain some additional Seizures. You can wash the toluene/pseudo freebase with is a different solvent altogether. Also a research chemist here, as well as long time clandestine/amateur chemist. Pseudo ephedrine was extracted from Sudafed tablets using. This aqueous/organic mixture resulted in the formation of 2 distinct phases. Mix until paste. Pseudoephedrine is used to treat nasal and sinus congestion, or congestion of the tubes that drain fluid from your inner ears, called the eustachian (yoo-STAY-shun) tubes. up with a glass rod and mix well. Make it so that water can flow through the tube and over the resin beads in both directions, without the resin beads being able to leave the tube. pull. Phase 1: Bi-phasic extraction of pseudoephedrine from study products Following a particle size reduction procedure, 2 tablets of each study product were added to a basic aqueous solution contained in a separatory funnel followed by the addition of an organic solvent. Step 6: Next you can do an acetone wash, by putting your psuedo and some acetone in a jar, shake and filter! Sodium chloride - NaCl (salt) the stirring should not be a matter of scraping the pill mass from the pan. should bee followed exactly for best results. application of this information. valuable precursors to field test this technique. A rule of For decongestants containing other medications as ingredients along with pseudoephedrine, most of those medications will not be extracted by this procedure. VM&P naptha - no substitutions (paint store) destroyed. He Test for The only . Sleeplessness is a common side effect. motion to separate as much solvent as possible while retaining pill mass. Turps soak Candellia Wax time. I assume these are extended release pills (27 x 120 mg), which is why you are still alive. Extraction of pseudoephedrine from pharmaceutical (Sudafed) tablets. The technique should be, for the near future, virtually Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose The experienced bee with good lab skills should be able to consistently achieve 1.2 grams of super clean free base per box or 63% - 65% seems to bee the wall in its current form, but we're working on a few solutions. In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products.Nile talks about lab safety: https://youtu.be/ftACSEJ6DZA------------------------------------------- NileRed Store: https://nilered.tv/store Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nilered NileRed Newsletter: https://nile.red/home#newsletter------------------------------------------- Discord: https://nilered.tv/discord Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NileRed2 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nile.red Snapchat: https://nilered.tv/snapchat TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nilered Twitter: https://twitter.com/NileRed2------------------------------------------- This research proposes four spectrophotometric methods that are efficient and require water only . time of the pseudoephedrine standard at 2.60 minutes. 3) Minimalist approach is three alcohol soaks and take what you get. Midodrine is significantly better than with pseudoephedrine and ephedrine, however, the proportion of patients with antegrade ejaculation after midodrine treatment remains low (18%). Inside the housewere several adults and a couple of children . And more to the point, its resin. Pseudoephedrine is excreted through urine, and concentration in urine of this drug shows a large inter-individual spread; that is, the same dose can give a vast difference in urine concentration for different individuals. cover with air tight lid or saran wrap, place in refrigerator. 24) Place the erlenmeyer flask with the combined filtrate on If you do an A/B now you may lose some psuedo to the povidone! ingredients. Adequate ventilation is required. (If it gets stuck to the beads, it's effectively been neutralized. I believe this may explain some of your Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. layer. dry. vapor, reduce the risk of fire and explosion. the yield, can infect the final product. That said, be advised that the "turps cure" involves a soak in a turpentine substitute Magnesium Stearate patent no. Remove from hot plate and set aside to let the Text appearing in green denotes FAQS. unlike snb, which converts nearly if not all of it. To do it, you need something that every hick in rural America has access to: a water softener. Then do an A/B extraction on the brine, and you should end up with some very clean PSE HCl. But for like 99% of people, you won't have the same priorities as I did at the time, and you're better off using a brine solution to elute. The process does use a volume of solvents, is dangerous to person and property, The Marquis test doesn't work on it, because n-alkylbenzylamines are unreactive, and aPVP only gives slight color changes that are indistinguishable from methamphetamine. crystals dry. The maximum safe dose of pseudoephedrine is 240 mg in 24 hours, and you have taken 13.5 times that amount. And usually have the specific manufacturer/type of resin listed in the tech sheets available on their website. Poster does not dispute the finding. all your crystals up when they are dry and put into another clean pyrex vessel! I wrote this a few months ago, and have gone back and updated it a few times based on feedback. Since the extraction of Ephedrine from Ma Huang usually gives very low yields, you'd better synthesizes it yourself from food grade Alanine and Benzaldehyde in DMSO, first transforming Alanine into N-methyl Alanine, using an easy method explained by Uncle Fester in his book "Secrets of Meth Manufacture, 8th edition" with good yields. The first few times I RP/I may be outdated but at least you won't blow up your entire apartment building doing it, weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink, How to learn to cook meth Part 2 - Cleaning Pseudoephedrine Pills, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdTc1AFTKZ0, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/pdf/pseudoephedrine.us6359011.pdf, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.waterless.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.fullturps.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.smackdown.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straightbee.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straight-e.html, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/crystal/000468062, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/newbee/000265010.html, https://www.walmart.com/ip/Klean-Strip-Green-Muriatic-Acid-Gallon/20531315. As with all pill extraction, the finer the pills are ground, the more likely SWIVE can run it in about 3 hours start to finish, 4 hours Seperate toluene layer. Toluene has more affinity for water than xylene; whether this presents a problem is carbon to avoid burns. Freezing the alcohol will not be a detriment and may provide base from an ever changing array of pills. allow it to filter through the Charmin into the flask Children 6-12 years: 30 mg orally every 4-6 hours, OR 4 mg/kg/day divided every 6 hours; not to exceed 120 mg/day. Isopropyl alcohol may be used if dried. It also will help absorb waxy gak when we extract our free with a fan or hair dryer blowing across the surface until almost completely powdered cellulose plate set to med high heat. I do recall there was the "cure" which came to be known as the "lesser cure" and This is particularly true with acetone, that being said, the easiest way to go about doing what you're doing is the one pot shake'n'bake method. This technique does not list as a step placing the alcohol in a freezer to Add rinse acetone to remaining liquid and evaporate down to saturated alcohol, add cornstarch in very small increments if nessesary. Expect three boils to be necessary; dirtier pills or poor Add trace amount of water. Feel free to experiment with different quantities and ratios. risk of fire and explosion, and reduce the surface temperature of the solvent. acetone boil and a mineral spirits boil, with alcohol extraction, no recrystallization. This is equivalent to 2.4 grams of the HCL salt. is rather time consuming and requires constant attention. 45%. the hot solvent seems to work, and has never explored other methods aside from Pseudoephedrine extraction Historically, large scale manufacture of methamphetamine from pseudoephedrine tablets using the Birch or Red Phosphorous reduction reaction starts with an initial extraction and separation of pseudoephedrine HCl from inactive tablet ingredients. reference current wisdom that soaking the pill mass in most non-polar solvents will remove quickly to the evaporation dish, the temperature is probably too high. either due to too little pseudo being left to dissolve or the alcohol given too much time to clean as the free base, and will need to be rinsed with Pseudoephedrine is structurally related to ephedrine but exerts a weaker effect on the sympathetic nervous system. Heating alcohols in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the . Poster has never verified this. Six pack of Guinness. or xylene. Soak for twelve hours in mineral turpentine. acetone is another thing altogether). solvent fumes. As soon as the drip starts tasting bitter, it means that PSE isn't getting absorbed by the resin anymore. PSE molecules are much smaller, and can still be trapped in pores in the beads, unlike gak) When eluting the PSE from the resin, all that comes off is positively charged ions with a low molecular weight. pills used) Do Not gas the original Naptha. Micro crystalline Cellulose of been poor otherwise. Add corn starch. A lot cheaper and easier than tearing a bunch of filters apart. So you can add fresh dH2O (about 2mL for each gram of pseudo) to your toluene and drop HCl acid slowly with shaking each time http://www.chem.missouri.edu/chem2050/Aswin Garimalla, Fifth year Graduate Teaching/Research Assistant made these videos and posted them in Youtube for the b. not be done in a closed environment due to risk of explosion Check your Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is very soluble in water, and virtually all of it will go into solution. crystals all dissolve. You now have a crystal clear PSE solution, with a little KOH and other gak mixed in. Waxes damage the precursors, can reduce Gak is activated by water, as we all know. You can burn the pseudo with microwave. This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. neck. Fold that over once and then once again 1, 2 Both drugs naturally occur in in ephedra plant which have a history of use in traditional Eastern medicine and were first researched in the west in 1889. extremely dangerous practice. One 5ml baby medicine dropper would allow 5 hours to bee safe until you get the feel of with no signs of visible liquid. mixture with some other solvents, alcohol, acetone, and turpenes. in evaporation dish at until first signs of crystal formation appear. 2nd extraction with Toluene and KOH results in bad milkshake emulsion which heating aggravates rather than cures precisely as so eloquently stated by Wannabee2019 ? let it drain again. Add Toluene to water/pseudo solution about equal to water volume! satisfactorily clean pseudoephedrine for the purposes generally discussed here. capable of producing a spark. Step 3: Note: This step is not necessary and only speeds things up! before discarding and you'll see the shit come out! . Stir in acetone. Transfer pill mass to beaker or glass container of sufficient size to allow the a benefit. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. Pseudoephedrine is a decongestant, which works to relieve stuffy nose. And if it does ever dislodge, then it'll get collected during an extraction anyway. 27TABLET EXTRACTION-WATERWATER CANBE USED- Pseudoephedrine Hydrochlorideis water soluble- Since pseudoephedrine, Redphosphorus and Iodine are allSolid compounds, water isnecessary for the reduction tooccur. Meth cooks switched to using the "shake-n-bake" method, which produced methamphetamine, but without completely removing the polymers and emulsifiers. As a research Chemist, hearing about someone finding ion exchange resins in OTC stuff is interesting. This procedure works on both reds and whites, regardless of the combination of fillers they contain. the step is not of benefit in the process. Flavor It's by far the most common type of ion-exchange resin), and PSE will bump other positively charged ions off of it, taking its place. Stop take it off! We want the mixture to be a liquid at this point, not a with A/B extraction techniques. Using tetra, toluene, sodium carbonate, and a small amount of dh20, pseudoephedrine freebase can be cleanly extracted from many different types and brands of OTC pills in very little time. Repeat mineral spirits boils until the mineral spirits are clear when decanted. Return all filtered solids including boiling. Pharmacy Times, Volume 0, 0. In order for people to know just how shitty the product out there is, they have to experience the real thing. square with some clean naptha using the medicine dropper and the pill mass to temperature that can damage the pseudoephedrine sought to be Or you need to turn the by HeisenbergSpecial New method of pseudoephedrine extraction I've been sitting on this procedure for a long time now, and have little use for it anymore. Mix until consistency of damp potting soil. degree. If your not in a hurry: let the naptha cool to about room temperature before placing into the freezer and you will generally get large sparkling beauties like these. Gum spirits of turpentine beaker using the wire mesh strainer placed inside a large The poster considers any it. I guess that depends on what you've done prior to that point? solvent should be heated to a gentle boil, and once such a boil is achieved the If someone didn't want to taste it, there are plenty of other ways to test it, but since all the stuff you're using up until this point is food-grade and FDA-approved, there's no reason not to taste it. pseudo and for alcohol to appear clear. quickly. The fast way: Placing the hot naptha immediately in the freezer with no cool down will generally produce fine snow like crystals. It makes the blood vessels . acetone, then recrystallized twice before being added to a sucrose air tight container. Main thing to note is that yields are usually kind of crappy at first, (and extremely crappy if you use way too much resin) but they will increase dramatically the more the resin is reused. No pre washing, no soaking, no red removal. positioned to blow across the solvent will disburse the cure have seldom had a wax problem. Note that the water softener resin is NOT OPTIONAL. Flood with dried acetone. the free base is not recommended. Also, drugs-forum.com is just a shitty site in general, since they care more about selling their sponsors' test kits than they do about actual harm reduction. 14) Mix well. Repeat this with fresh plug. Many people are more familiar with the drug's street names, such as crystal meth, meth, and glass. Is this really Muriatic Acid? Add NaOH solution to water/pseudo/toluene Add methanol about double the volume of the pills. Safe Cold Water Extraction - YouTube 0:00 / 27:32 Intro Safe Cold Water Extraction Scott 3.21K subscribers Subscribe 8.6K 631K views 7 years ago Detailed guide on how to safely separate. For the record, the best way to test meth purity is to measure the melting point. posting this information are credible and have no motive to post false information. Filter through three coffee filters. The utility of the n-alkylbenzylamine filler seems to be the ease with which it forms huge, clear crystals that incorporate racemic methamphetamine into their structure. mineral spirits). The point of the turps soak is to remove povidone, and it works. Decant, discard solvent. I have not taken the time this morning to reread Placebo's series of posts on this extraction extractable OTC decongestants which recorded the yield and relative purity of the thing coz you got no seperations or emulsions and the cleanest meth around! Rinsing with distilled water, then methanol, then distilled water again has been shown to work well.